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OS X audio Player Review – 2. Amarra Luxe
I don’t think Audirvana Plus supports VST plugins (JRiver MC does). sounds horrible without JPlay or Fidelizger or xxxx other product. How to use iTunes Integrated Mode and Audirvana Plus (Japanese User Manual (includes installation/setup instructions): › whats-the-best-free-music-player-for-windows
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How to use iTunes Integrated Mode and Audirvana Plus (Japanese User Manual (includes installation/setup instructions): Audirvana just turned the corner towards HiFi artifice and sounds that is configured for audiophile playback with Fidelizer and JPlay. I don’t think Audirvana Plus supports VST plugins (JRiver MC does). sounds horrible without JPlay or Fidelizger or xxxx other product.
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Something good. Altogether easier listening for that 70 minute Merck mix. These findings were confirmed by the Surface Pro 3.
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Joined Feb 6, Messages 8, Likes 10, Alec Kinnear said:. The publisher himself admitted to sweetening the sound. Listening tests show that Audirvana sounds “better” than other bit-perfect players. This isn’t proof enough for you? I’m sorry if these facts shake the foundations of your orthodoxy. I’m happy that heresy is no longer punished by immolation. Click to expand Rottmannash Major Contributor Forum Donor. Guys read the thread more attentively please before barking.
Damien specifically answers a customer in French, in which I’m fluent : How much more clear does it have to be? The publisher himself is claiming that he’s sweetening the signal. Otherwise Audirvana would sound just like all the other about half a dozen bit-perfect players for OS X. I actually went to the trouble to compare them all before reaching this conclusion. Why do you think Audirvana sounds better? Because it’s more bit-perfect?
Surely you realise that bit-perfect is an absolute. I can’t find it out now, but amirm has a test graph of stereo separation for one of the DACs he tested which shows a blurry line in the middle instead of a clean one. It surprised him in an otherwise perfect measurement performance.
He mentions that he did the test with Audirvana playback. Because you only use one player you get the illusion that Foobar is totally colorless. Once you start using different players imagine nine different players , you think they will all sound exactly the same? I agree. I hear differences all the time between Foobar, iTunes, JRiver, etc. Each sounds different. Thanks for the efforts. I have been waiting for a proper comparison of these software players and I think you have nailed it.
Amarra is still the best with these ears too. It would also be great to see a show down of the various iOS players; sonicmaxpro BBE , EQu, equalizer, flacplayer, stereophonic and more.
Do we have any suggestions as to the mechanism whereby these players sound different? The reason I ask is that compared to running Foobar these players look pretty terrible functionality-wise half of them are just itunes plugins!
Take a guess? Take 6 guys and ask them to draw a simple mountain. But clearly they all wrote their own line of software, and the different approaches would be one possible explanation for the different sound. Again, I never thought that an audio player could have a sound signature.
Until I start comparing these different players. Again, take 9 different players. Listen to them. They all sound different. Who gets to claim that theirs is the most neutral? How do you define neutrality? The differences here are on sound characters and they way they present things like soundstage. If 2 diferent players produce a diferent sound then a least one of them is not neutral. Do you think that no player is neutral? Yes but how do you know how far that player have deviated from the original recording?
Go to the recording studio and plug in your headphone there? They tweak things to make the recording sound more exciting. Surely when the mechanisms involved are so exotic some of the companies making large sums out of this look at the price of Amarra!
Suggested mechanism of audibility: Direct effect of software on jitter ie, not the power supply. In this buffer, you will find, in some form or another, the audio samples. The audio interface or USB interface sees exactly the same data, assuming a bit-perfect player: a direct effect upon jitter via this mechanism is not merely unlikely, but completely impossible. The problem I have with it is one of plausibility.
If this was the case, it would be relatively easy to measure ripple and the like on the power supply rails for some of the companies selling these. Even if there is an effect on the power supply rails, this completely ignores the local regulators employed on the interfaces themselves. It would surely be the intrinsic noise and ripple of those regulators that would dominate any measurements of the power reaching the more critical components? In the past, there have been plenty of things that had noticeable effects, but the reason was not yet known.
BTW, your jitter discussion avoids the inconvenient fact that those buffers get full. This leaves the only mechanism whereby differences can be caused as one of the power supply, which seems very unlikely. I think it is reasonable that companies selling things utilising unlikely mechanisms provide some modicum of proof that their stuff actually does what it says on the tin.
I also take issue with the idea that audiophiles heard issues in the past before science caught up. I tried the demo of Amarra 2. The sound of Audirvana is different, more aerial and still a bit more crisp, but a little less detailed. Yet the program works like a charm.
Well still looking for one with playlist management and I would be in paradise. I also found Amarra 2. The earlier Amarra version was similar in that regard, but the last version I used for the review 2. Take a look at the Superlux HD Thank you for the tip!
Now just being a curious soul, I do wonder how audio players can possibly have different sound sigs. But does having different sigs imply that they all essentially apply different EQs to the music?
If one player is grainy and the other is smooth, that is not part of an EQ since an EQ alters the frequency response and grain is not part of a frequency response. It sounds good, and offers UI and UE of exceptional quality. The display offers a highly custumable interface. Really remarkable. You can get a free fully-featured version of this player from the Microsoft Store that you can keep forever.
Its only restriction is that the library cannot exceed tracks. This audiophile player was supported by Neil Young. The player sounds good, but plays PCM tracks that are up to There are no limitations for DSD. The player seems very simple, but has all the features that an aufiophile player needs, including a decent library management.
It plays with a DAC and with a network system. It has also a good remote. This player is offered completely for free on the site of OraStream. In addition, you get, for free, 25 GB of cloud storage for your music to listen to it with your phone. OraStream has paid subscription offers for users who want to get more cloud storage and for users who want to stream content like companies that run internet radios.
Please, read my post more thoroughly, I did not say I could not perceive the difference between iTunes and AS, I said and hereby repeat it, I do not think I would be able to perceive the nuance you mention, in the conditions you mention.
In a recent simple audio test, I was shocked to discover that I am not hearing much above 12kHz. Not the worst for my age, was I told. And under that frequency, the quality of hearing was deemed quite good indeed. I do not know how old you are, but if you were to take the same test, you might discover something that would shock you too, and put all this matter in perspective.
Nevertheless, I do hear a significant difference when I listen to a noisy computer and a silent one. The difference is as important as the difference between a decent non audiophile player and an audiophile player. If Bit perfect had no relation with noise, in practice, I should have got the same quality sound nwith or without the reduction of the noise of the PC. Not really. If it does, it means DAC is somehow too sensitive to noise.